Dragon Quest 11: Echoes of an Elusive Age |OT| Classic Combat Camera is Crucial

And maybe it's also that the game feels infinitely more compelling than DQ7 as far as backtracking and reuse that aggravated me.
This I don't know, I only played VIII and XI so I don't how if previous games were worse. But compared to any recent games in the genre, the second act of DQ XI seems likke padding to me, the first hours and the last hours are good content but all the middle sections were basically returning to old places to see worse stories than in Act 1.
 

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Someone had said something about an easy to kill monster that drops something but can't find it.

Also I've had a bunch of battles now wearing 3 uniforms and a certain necklace but no drops :/
 
This I don't know, I only played VIII and XI so I don't how if previous games were worse. But compared to any recent games in the genre, the second act of DQ XI seems likke padding to me, the first hours and the last hours are good content but all the middle sections were basically returning to old places to see worse stories than in Act 1.
VII felt like I was retreading the area pretty much instantly after treading it the first time for really banal reasons. It's very different from what's going on here.

Anyway, I guess I can respect the difference in opinion. I'm really liking Act 2 so far. As I said, I think it's compelling enough with a lot of character background and some new areas throughout. The stuff that really pertains to Erik, Sylvando, and Rab were great. Hotto and Gallopolis weren't the greatest, but I didn't mind them being there really.

What I'm saying is vague enough but I'm spoiling it just in case.
 
VII felt like I was retreading the area pretty much instantly after treading it the first time for really banal reasons. It's very different from what's going on here.

Anyway, I guess I can respect the difference in opinion. I'm really liking Act 2 so far. As I said, I think it's compelling enough with a lot of character background and some new areas throughout. The stuff that really pertains to Erik, Sylvando, and Rab were great. Hotto and Gallopolis weren't the greatest, but I didn't mind them being there really.
Here I agree. The characters got more development, and their arcs were more or less interesting, but some arcs (Hotto, Gallopolis, the mural city, Octagonia) felt like a waste of time to me. I feel like this game is padded everywhere, and Act 2 almost made me quit it tbh. The final dungeon didn't help either, what a fucking slog.
 
Now that I’m in Act 3, it’s basically Asset Reuse: The Game, but the gameplay loop is still solid as ever and there’s enough serious story throughout that delivers on breadcrumbs throughout acts 1 and 2 that it’s not a big deal.

Jesus Christ, and I thought the Octogonia boss sucked.

Tentacular with Draconian enemies and a level 25 party. HOW??!!

It gets to spam AOE moves nonstop, gets like 4 attacks per round due to it's regenerating tentacles, and regularly decides to stop 1+ people from acting at random while doing a ton of damage at the same time. Nope, that's totally not complete and utter bullshit or anything.

The only strat I can think of is to have Serena set up Kabuff and Ice Hymn while Sylvando keeps everyone alive with Hustle Dance, but it doesn't fucking work because he keeps knocking people down before I can do anything.

Do I need to level up more or something? And do the tentacles eventually stop coming back? I feel like the fight would be almost impossible if they didn't.
I believe they do stop, but try killing one and leaving one half dead, so you can just instantly kill one whenever it regenerates the other. And do what the other poster suggested, too. You should be leveled enough for that fight.
 
Falcon Knife + Divide + Dual Wielding makes him become good again, but sadly you won't have enough skill points for a lot of Act 1.
This is my second playthrough. And on Draconian, the Falcon Knife is horrendously weak. He does better with dual Falcon Blades, but without gouging his strength, he's still subpar compared to Jade until much later.
 
Jesus Christ, and I thought the Octogonia boss sucked.

Tentacular with Draconian enemies and a level 25 party. HOW??!!

It gets to spam AOE moves nonstop, gets like 4 attacks per round due to it's regenerating tentacles, and regularly decides to stop 1+ people from acting at random while doing a ton of damage at the same time. Nope, that's totally not complete and utter bullshit or anything.

The only strat I can think of is to have Serena set up Kabuff and Ice Hymn while Sylvando keeps everyone alive with Hustle Dance, but it doesn't fucking work because he keeps knocking people down before I can do anything.

Do I need to level up more or something? And do the tentacles eventually stop coming back? I feel like the fight would be almost impossible if they didn't.
Actually found this boss quite easy.
If you go see the cannon lady on the hill in Lonalulu, you will gain an advantage in the boss battle and the boss will be stunned for a few turns. That should be enough to set you up.

If you need additional ideas, see vid below:

 
I thought I had tough decisions to make with how I was speccing out my characters and now Rab and Jade joined and I can't figure out who to make a party with now. ATM I'm going with Hero, Jade, Veronica, and Rab.

edit: I honestly don't know why I'm so indecisive in this one.
This is my current line up and I'm doing pretty well. I got stuck at a boss a little after you get Jade and Rab, and was about to progress using Hero, Jade, Veronica, and Rab. Sticking with those 4 for now.
 
Actually found this boss quite easy.
If you go see the cannon lady on the hill in Lonalulu, you will gain an advantage in the boss battle and the boss will be stunned for a few turns. That should be enough to set you up.

If you need additional ideas, see vid below:

Oh, wow I missed that completely. No wonder they made that fight so hard.
 
This is my second playthrough. And on Draconian, the Falcon Knife is horrendously weak. He does better with dual Falcon Blades, but without gouging his strength, he's still subpar compared to Jade until much later.
At level 70, with all of his important skills and strong postgame weapons, on stronger monsters, he's still the worst character by a mile. I don’t care if he does slightly more damage than the others when everything goes perfectly, this is a game where everything going perfectly is explicitly meant to be a rarity.

Trying to use him because people say he’s great probably contributed to almost as many wipes through the game as poor decisions or exceptionally bad rng. I don’t know why I keep trying to make characters that make use of status effects for high damage work. They’re almost always trash in practice.
 
LEGIT SHOOKED!!!!!!!!
Just a little past the post game until real final boss reveal himself (Cell/Jiren combined lol), Leaves Heliodor castle then horse start coming toward me and the world map theme song change

HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DRAGON QUEST 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VIBES!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I'm still playing through the game but I just wanted to say, the mermaid story is the best part so far.
It was really touching. It really makes me see the game in a new light.
 
So does the Casino get better prizes later in the game? I used Autoclicker to play the slots on autopilot, and went from 600 to 145,000 tokens in about 2 hours, but beyond getting the platinum spear for Jade (already have the platinum sword) none of the other prizes really look that enticing.
 
So does the Casino get better prizes later in the game? I used Autoclicker to play the slots on autopilot, and went from 600 to 145,000 tokens in about 2 hours, but beyond getting the platinum spear for Jade (already have the platinum sword) none of the other prizes really look that enticing.
Yes, and you’ll unlock more games like roulette.
 
So does the Casino get better prizes later in the game? I used Autoclicker to play the slots on autopilot, and went from 600 to 145,000 tokens in about 2 hours, but beyond getting the platinum spear for Jade (already have the platinum sword) none of the other prizes really look that enticing.
Yeah, they get better. And you shouldn't have gotten any platinum stuff. There's a recipe book that enables you to make all that stuff in the forge.
 
Yeah, metal slime farming is the best way to go. And here is the best way to do that.

You'll need one Pep Pip per battle from casino, quest rewards, crossbow completion, or mini medal exchange. Put them on Sylvando

Main Abilites: Hero - Pep Up (Luminary), Erik - Critical Claim (Guile)

1. Get Rab, Erik, Sylvando and Jade into pep and swap them out. Have the Hero use Pep Up when done. ( about 10 minutes spamming defend)
2. Save your game!
3. Start a random battle anywhere with a party of Hero, Erik, Jade and Sylvando
4. Hero, Jade, Erik use Haulellujah for guaranteed drop + exp bonus (Jade is usually fastest)
5. Swap Erik to Rab, Hero Pep Up, Sylvando uses a Pep Pip on Jade.
6. Wait for the enemy Moves to conclude
7. Hero, Jade, Sylvando use Electro Light to change the battle into a fight with 3 Metals (flee and reload if this fails)
8. Swap Sylvando for Erik
9. Rab uses Pep to force sleep the Metals
10. Begin killing with critical abilities only

Every 10 levels the encounter changes
50: 3x Vicious Metal Slime: About 300k exp, Seed of Life from each
60: 2x Vicious Metal Slime, 1x Liquid Metal, About 350k exp, Happy Hat from the Liquid
70: 1x Vicious Metal King, 2x Liquid Metal, About 800k exp, Pep Pip from Metal King

At 70+ the Metal King returns the Pep Pip you use. Before 70 you'll need to rely on any Pep Pips you have from quest rewards or 125000 tokens.
Gain 4-5 levels per from 50-70, and like 7-8 from 70-99. Reasonable to go from 50 to 99 with Pep Pip rewards from quest/crossbow completion
A few hours later I go up 30+ levels to hit 99 for everyone. Thank you for this write up!
 
Used one fairly often, had better skills than the other one.
In any case, I meant in the story, they didn't have any use at all. Kinda weird to me considering the way they presented those.
But it was used at least one time
against the big fish on the sea
. The other times I don't remember but to me it's mostly to present those techniques and establish them into the world since both happened because of training.
 
Something I didn't realize first time though
is that you can sneak up to Sniflheim early and get the platinum ore you need for the fancy MC armor
before Lonalulu (sp?). Due to being lower level I did a shit job at forging it but at lest can wear it a little early.

Not sure what to think of Michelle's VA though.
 
Aaaand done!

Cool game, have a lot of complains but after 120hs can't deny that I enjoyed my time with it.

What was the purpose of Quadraslash and Pearly Gates tho -_-
I had a similar feeling with
thw sword of light. I forged it, it was clearly inferior compared to my two hand random forged sword and AFAIK it has no special hability or does lots of damage to the final boss. I expected something like OoT, that you only can kill the boss with an specific weapon or something, but at the end it was only used one time during the castle entrance cinematic.
 
I had a similar feeling with
thw sword of light. I forged it, it was clearly inferior compared to my two hand random forged sword and AFAIK it has no special hability or does lots of damage to the final boss. I expected something like OoT, that you only can kill the boss with an specific weapon or something, but at the end it was only used one time during the castle entrance cinematic.

The sword is useful in the final boss of act 3 tho, so at least there's that and it's actually the most powerful sword.
Those technicks tho, they were supposed to be the ultimate tool to defeat Mordegon... the story never brings them again.
 
Question. So I just
cleansed Heliodor in Act 2. How long until I get to the second casino (I know I have to cleanse that too before it becomes real casino)?
I am really loving this game (probably my third favorite DQ so far after III and VII), but I really need something to break up the monotony at this point.
 
So does the Casino get better prizes later in the game? I used Autoclicker to play the slots on autopilot, and went from 600 to 145,000 tokens in about 2 hours, but beyond getting the platinum spear for Jade (already have the platinum sword) none of the other prizes really look that enticing.
There is no point to play anything else at Casino other than roulette. You can win 1 million tokens in less than half hour.
 
This is my second playthrough. And on Draconian, the Falcon Knife is horrendously weak. He does better with dual Falcon Blades, but without gouging his strength, he's still subpar compared to Jade until much later.
I though he did fine on bosses with Oomph, especially because he tended to crit fairly often.

On normal enemies he's meh, though I do love his sleep attack.
 
The sword is useful in the final boss of act 3 tho, so at least there's that and it's actually the most powerful sword.
Those technicks tho, they were supposed to be the ultimate tool to defeat Mordegon... the story never brings them again.
Oh cool, I haven't play Act 3 (maybe in the future, but Act 2 got really boring to me), but I never used that sword as I use basically 2 hand swords.
 
How do I know when I'm post game? I just
put the orbs in and climbed the Tree I did went through the scene. I'm a bit ahead now, I spoke to the Seer in a dream when the MC drowned
 
I'm at the part where I get the wheel of time back, I guess there isn't much left to the main path? Should I clean up the side quests first? Many have pop up everywhere, like the dragon in snifelheim.
 
So, in Act 2, I just got
the boat again, along with Sylv. Is there anywhere in particular I should go first? I started just sort of exploring on my own a bit and ended up in Gallopolis, and I get the feeling I'm not supposed to be doing this yet? I could be wrong though. The game seems to want me to go towards the Zwaardust region.
 
Lore question, assuming you’ve beaten the game in full.

how is the game before DQ3? Man I hate time travel lol. Throughout the game 3 is referenced. How can it be before it?
Here are my thoughts..
This assumes you've beaten DQ3. Those are references indicating DQ11 is prequel of DQ3.

- The hero's title "Erdrick" originally was introduced at DQ1 saying the title points to the hero existed ages ago (which really is DQ3). However at the DQ3 the title seems to have existed at the land of Alefgard for eons ago already as well. DQ11 finally showed the origin.
- At the very end of true ending, it shows the whole DQ11 storyline has been compiled to a book, and after lady finishes reading the thing she wakes up a hero of DQ3.
 
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