The PC Builders Thread ("I Need a New PC") v2

I just talked myself down from a ledge of buying a 2 TB M.2 SSD to replace my 2 TB 5400 RPM SATA2 HDD. I can't convince myself to buy anything with cables/wires anymore but at the same time, $300 or so is a ton for what I could get from a HDD (space-wise) for about $60. Just can't justify it.

Does a Kyzen 1600x pair well with 1080?
I'd say yes. It shouldn't be a significant bottleneck unless you're doing very high framerates gaming >120 or so if memory serves). Overclocking the 1600 can help, too
 
I just talked myself down from a ledge of buying a 2 TB M.2 SSD to replace my 2 TB 5400 RPM SATA2 HDD. I can't convince myself to buy anything with cables/wires anymore but at the same time, $300 or so is a ton for what I could get from a HDD (space-wise) for about $60. Just can't justify it.



I'd say yes. It shouldn't be a significant bottleneck unless you're doing very high framerates gaming >120 or so if memory serves). Overclocking the 1600 can help, too
I am happy enough with how my Meshify C handles the SATA SSD positioning behind the board tray so I don't mind. Enjoying my new 860 EVO 2TB. You should compromise!
 
So, I want to preface that I am a dang dingaling and would like some assistance.

Just got my pretty little RTX 2080 and installed everything like usual... but its showing I have zero VRAM, the fans aren't spinning, and it looks like everything I just running off the CPU and RAM. DXdiag was only reporting the chipset as NVidia. So apparently something has gone wrong, but I am tired and frustrated and would like to find out some way to troubleshoot this.

I have for now reinstalled my GTX 970 which is working just fine... I'm just a bit lost.

Here is an idea of what my build looks like.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mp63sZ
 
What driver set were you trying to install? Nvidia just put out new drivers today.

I do have a question about DDU. Is that necessary anymore because on the custom install option for nvidia drivers you can choose a textbox for a "clean install" which I thought was the same thing. Maybe it's not! I always choose custom install and install everything with a clean install and haven't had any problems, but maybe I'm lucky.

Also, that 5400 RPM hdd needs to find a way into retirement. :P A 2TB M.2 drive for 300 is pretty insane price,
 
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So, I want to preface that I am a dang dingaling and would like some assistance.

Just got my pretty little RTX 2080 and installed everything like usual... but its showing I have zero VRAM, the fans aren't spinning, and it looks like everything I just running off the CPU and RAM. DXdiag was only reporting the chipset as NVidia. So apparently something has gone wrong, but I am tired and frustrated and would like to find out some way to troubleshoot this.

I have for now reinstalled my GTX 970 which is working just fine... I'm just a bit lost.

Here is an idea of what my build looks like.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mp63sZ
Fans usually don’t spin until certain temp so that may explain that but not sure what’s going on with the other stuff. You didn’t accidentally plug your display cable into your mobo instead of the card? But not sure how that would account for dxdiag reading. And yeah as above you’ll want to go DDU on that ass.

I just talked myself down from a ledge of buying a 2 TB M.2 SSD to replace my 2 TB 5400 RPM SATA2 HDD. I can't convince myself to buy anything with cables/wires anymore but at the same time, $300 or so is a ton for what I could get from a HDD (space-wise) for about $60. Just can't justify it.



I'd say yes. It shouldn't be a significant bottleneck unless you're doing very high framerates gaming >120 or so if memory serves). Overclocking the 1600 can help, too
Wait what? You found a 2TB M.2 for 300 bucks??
 
Fans usually don’t spin until certain temp so that may explain that but not sure what’s going on with the other stuff. You didn’t accidentally plug your display cable into your mobo instead of the card? But not sure how that would account for dxdiag reading. And yeah as above you’ll want to go DDU on that ass.



Wait what? You found a 2TB M.2 for 300 bucks??
Plugged 2 6 pin PCI-E connectors plus a 2 pin extender into the card. It’s looking more and more like a driver issue.

Imma dunk on that shit super hard. Will report on my findings.
 
Plugged 2 6 pin PCI-E connectors plus a 2 pin extender into the card. It’s looking more and more like a driver issue.

Imma dunk on that shit super hard. Will report on my findings.
Are you able to run 3D applications like a game? If you do then your fans should spin up after a bit. Or during a benchmark. If any stress makes it crash then it could be power related if drivers don’t fix.
 
Fans usually don’t spin until certain temp so that may explain that but not sure what’s going on with the other stuff. You didn’t accidentally plug your display cable into your mobo instead of the card? But not sure how that would account for dxdiag reading. And yeah as above you’ll want to go DDU on that ass.



Wait what? You found a 2TB M.2 for 300 bucks??
WD Blue M.2 (SATA, not NVMe) for $350, then take 15% off using eBay's sitewide coupon going on today. Ends in like 1.5 hours.
 
I need some advice.

I currently have a 1060 with an i3-4160,

I can play most games at 60 FPS with some minor dips by reducing shadows and things like that (I put performance over graphics). Currently thinking on upgrading to a better CPU and upgrade my GPU next year to play in 4k now that I have a new job.

If I want to upgrade to a i7- 8700 (290000 CLP), I would also need a new Mobo (100000 CLP) and new rams (150000 CLP), that would be around 800 USD.
Or I could just buy a i7-7700 for around 400 USd.

Its a 8800 worth changing everything if I want to be able to use the same CPU to play in 4K next year? (and hopefully next gen)
 
I need some advice.

I currently have a 1060 with an i3-4160,

I can play most games at 60 FPS with some minor dips by reducing shadows and things like that (I put performance over graphics). Currently thinking on upgrading to a better CPU and upgrade my GPU next year to play in 4k now that I have a new job.

If I want to upgrade to a i7- 8700 (290000 CLP), I would also need a new Mobo (100000 CLP) and new rams (150000 CLP), that would be around 800 USD.
Or I could just buy a i7-7700 for around 400 USd.

Its a 8800 worth changing everything if I want to be able to use the same CPU to play in 4K next year? (and hopefully next gen)
I could.be wrong, but I don't think the 7700 can be used on the same mobo as a 4160? You'd need a new mobo, RAM, and CPU.
 
I could.be wrong, but I don't think the 7700 can be used on the same mobo as a 4160? You'd need a new mobo, RAM, and CPU.
Ram too?.
I assumed I had to change the mobo too, but I would have cheaper options I think. Its the RAM (going from DDR3 to DDR4) the really big jump in prices (But I dont know if it will also mean a decent bump in performance if DDR4 is the new standard in next gen,
 
I need some advice.

I currently have a 1060 with an i3-4160,

I can play most games at 60 FPS with some minor dips by reducing shadows and things like that (I put performance over graphics). Currently thinking on upgrading to a better CPU and upgrade my GPU next year to play in 4k now that I have a new job.

If I want to upgrade to a i7- 8700 (290000 CLP), I would also need a new Mobo (100000 CLP) and new rams (150000 CLP), that would be around 800 USD.
Or I could just buy a i7-7700 for around 400 USd.

Its a 8800 worth changing everything if I want to be able to use the same CPU to play in 4K next year? (and hopefully next gen)

Something to think about - an i5 4670k. They're fairly cheap and you can hold off spending big money on a complete 4k overhaul for another year.
 
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Even used, that's a good price. If it's new that's an insane price. Enjoy it! I managed to sell a 240mm radiator, 32 GB of RAM, and a motherboard so the sale worked for me as a seller quite well.
I listed some stuff but didn't do much. I sold a 4 year old motherboard last night for what I originally paid for it.. crazy.. Then I sold a Blu-ray for double what I paid today. Everything else sits.. but it's older DDR3 era and will sell before it's over.

Some dude wanted my CPU if I'd offer overnight shipping, then he ghosted when I did.
 
Hey team just got all my components today and excited to be doing my first build. I assembled the PC and triple checked all cords and connections, however when I push the power button on my case absolutely nothing happens. I know power is flowing because the front case LED turns on when I flip the PSU from O -> 1. I tried removing my RAM and reseating it again as someone mentioned sometimes that can be the cause.

I did some google-fu but nothing really about CPU not turning on even when power is flowing. Any suggestions? All parts are brand new. Hopefully its not a dud PSU?

CPU: Intel i7-8700
MOBO: MSI Z370 A-Pro
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB)
HD: Samsung 500GB SSD
GPU: Geforce GTX 1080Ti
Case: Cooler Master HAF912
PSU: EVGA 650 BQ
 
Hey team just got all my components today and excited to be doing my first build. I assembled the PC and triple checked all cords and connections, however when I push the power button on my case absolutely nothing happens. I know power is flowing because the front case LED turns on when I flip the PSU from O -> 1. I tried removing my RAM and reseating it again as someone mentioned sometimes that can be the cause.

I did some google-fu but nothing really about CPU not turning on even when power is flowing. Any suggestions? All parts are brand new. Hopefully its not a dud PSU?

CPU: Intel i7-8700
MOBO: MSI Z370 A-Pro
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB)
HD: Samsung 500GB SSD
GPU: Geforce GTX 1080Ti
Case: Cooler Master HAF912
PSU: EVGA 650 BQ
Did you check the standoffs?
Do you have the 8 pin CPU cord plugged into the 8 pin socket at the top of the motherboard? And double checked the 24 pin main power supply cord?

I've had your situation happen before and it was the case that was somehow causing the issue...
 
Hey team just got all my components today and excited to be doing my first build. I assembled the PC and triple checked all cords and connections, however when I push the power button on my case absolutely nothing happens. I know power is flowing because the front case LED turns on when I flip the PSU from O -> 1. I tried removing my RAM and reseating it again as someone mentioned sometimes that can be the cause.

I did some google-fu but nothing really about CPU not turning on even when power is flowing. Any suggestions? All parts are brand new. Hopefully its not a dud PSU?

CPU: Intel i7-8700
MOBO: MSI Z370 A-Pro
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB)
HD: Samsung 500GB SSD
GPU: Geforce GTX 1080Ti
Case: Cooler Master HAF912
PSU: EVGA 650 BQ
Got the power switch installed the right way (the 2-pin thingy normally in the bottom right corner)?
 
Looking to upgrade my PC in the next few weeks and could use some help. I've got a budget of £500 that could potentially stretch to £700. Also getting a 4k tv today and would love to play Witcher at 4k


Current build:

i5 4690k
Kingston Hyper X savage 16gb ram
MSI Z97 PC MATE MoBo
Gtx 1060 3GB
XFX 650w edition 80+ Bronze Semi-modular power supply


I've been looking at a 2070 but my friend keeps going on about Nvidia and their smoke and mirrors
 
I've been looking at a 2070 but my friend keeps going on about Nvidia and their smoke and mirrors
The biggest selling factor for the RTX 2070 is DSLL. We have no data about DSLL though. All we have are two limited tech demos, paired with hopes and promises. The second big feature is Raytracing performance, which might be negligible. All ray tracing demos, so far, were shown on a 2080Ti at 1080p and performance wasn't good. Will the 2070 be able to give you satisfying raytracing performance at 4k? I don't know, probably not. But drivers weren't up to date, devs only had 72h to build in ray tracing etc.

And that's the problem here and why your friend is calling it "smoke and mirrors", in the end we have no data to evaluate the cards. All we have are promises, PR hype and enthusiasts going crazy (as with every new toy, nothing wrong or new about it).
All we can evaluate, right now, is classic game performance and from that point of view a 1080Ti could make more sense for people that don't want to spend an unlimited amount of money. It gives you about the same level of performance as a RTX 2080 (without DSLL...) and 4k/60 are doable, with reduced settings of course. If you want the best possible 4k experience there is no way around the 2080Ti!

Take your pick, I can't give you a clear recommendation. There is not enough data to do so.

Your CPU is also getting a bit old, but it makes sense to use your budget on a new GPU. We are talking about a massive pixel boost after all.
The 4690k should be able to get the job done, for 1-2 more years. But you will run into some bottlenecks, especially in open World games like Assassins Creed, Witcher 3, GTA 5. Nothing mayor, but worth mentioning.
 
Aiming to build around this holiday, should I go for 8700k or wait for 9900k?

Im coming from i5 2500k.

I read 9900k might be ditching hyper threading. Is that important?
9900k should have hyperthreading. The 9700k is ditching it. It's honestly probably not very important for gaming either way right now. Might matter more in a few years as more games are designed to take advantage of more cores/threads, but that's no guarantee.
 
And that's the problem here and why your friend is calling it "smoke and mirrors", in the end we have no data to evaluate the cards. All we have are promises, PR hype and enthusiasts going crazy.1080Ti could make more sense for people that don't want to spend an unlimited amount of money. It gives you about the same level of performance as a RTX 2080 (without DSLL...) and 4k/60 are doable, with reduced settings of course. If you want the best possible 4k experience there is no way around the 2080Ti!


The 4690k should be able to get the job done, for 1-2 more years. But you will run into some bottlenecks, especially in open World games like Assassins Creed, Witcher 3, GTA 5. Nothing mayor, but worth mentioning.
Thanks man. Wait with an Rtx 2080 are we still talking about 4k with reduced settings? Regardless I'm leaning towards that or the 1080. The 2080ti costs more than my entire PC did lol.

With a 1080 or a 2080 am I good to go with the power supply and motherboard I have and how do I check that sort of thing? Yeah I'll prob upgrade my cpu in the new year
 
Wait with an Rtx 2080 are we still talking about 4k with reduced settings?
Yes.

With a 1080 or a 2080 am I good to go with the power supply and motherboard I have and how do I check that sort of thing? Yeah I'll prob upgrade my cpu in the new year
Your PSU is good enough, MB doesn't matter at all.They have PCI-E x16 since forever.

If you aim at 4k gaming, I'd recommend the 1080Ti or 2080 and not the GTX 1080.
Not wanting to pay £1100+ for a 2080Ti is understandable.
 
Finally got my new ETA from Amazon for EVGA XC 2080Ti: next Saturday Oct 6th. Will have been a 2 week delay but what can you do? Just glad to finally know when it's coming. Waterblock is ready. Next Saturday/weekend is going to be sweet.
 
I Just bought a mechanical keyboard and mousepad. When I said to myself earlier I'd just buy a PC and then wait a bit before gearing up.

This is how ruining oneself begins lol
 
Yes.



Your PSU is good enough, MB doesn't matter at all.They have PCI-E x16 since forever.

If you aim at 4k gaming, I'd recommend the 1080Ti or 2080 and not the GTX 1080.
Not wanting to pay £1100+ for a 2080Ti is understandable.
Okay so last question, how do I decide between the Rtx 2080 and the 1080Ti. At a glance it looks like the 1080Ti has 3gb more vram?
 
It seems to be a rather new case, but does anyone have or have experience with the Aigo darkFlash Phantom case? No one on Newegg or Amazon has reviewed it yet.

I'm returning my DeepCool Matrexx 55 case. It's a budget case and the quality screams it; the metal's thin, the front panel barely stays on, and my 1000w PSU can barely fit with even some of its modular cables installed. The biggest issue, though, is I can't fit my Corsair Hydro 115i Pro top-mounted. And I'm a stickler where I don't want to front-mount my AIO cooler.
 
Okay so last question, how do I decide between the Rtx 2080 and the 1080Ti. At a glance it looks like the 1080Ti has 3gb more vram?
Yes, it has 3 GB more Vram. But that's not really important, only a couple games need more then 8GB of Vram, even at 4k.

As said: It's impossible to give a clear recommendation between those two without having access to a fortune teller ball. It all comes down to DSLL and if you are willing to bet on it (and pay extra for it). DSLL is Nvidias reconstruction technique (sony had a similar idea with chequerboard rendering): At 4k two 1440p frames are being rendered and temporally reconstructed to output a 2160p image. DSLL needs to be specifically supported by the game and it depends on specialised algorithms that have to be individually created for each game. This takes time and a lot of compute power. No game currently supports DSLL, but Nvidia announced 15 titles for the next year. Will more games follow? Will it become an industry standard? Or will it stay a niche feature, like most nvidia stuff? Is it as good as Nvidia claims? We can only speculate here and speculations are meaningless.

For the rest: 2080 and 1080Ti use different architectures. 1080Ti has more raw power on paper, while 2080 focuses on paralization. 1080Ti is less expansive then 2080. 2080 also offers access to ray tracing, which will cost a lot of performance, especially at 4k. Performance wise the 2080 and 1080Ti are very similar atm.

I think that's good enough of a summary to give you enough information for your own decision.
 
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So I'm indecisive between a 580 and a 1060. Although I can get the 580 for cheaper, I'm worried about how hot it supposedly can run. Do the 2GB in VRAM difference matter in any way? Is MSI a good brand? I had Gigabyte before but I'd rather buy something else since their card died on me (a 280x).
 
So I'm indecisive between a 580 and a 1060. Although I can get the 580 for cheaper, I'm worried about how hot it supposedly can run. Do the 2GB in VRAM difference matter in any way?
It can help out with games that like to use large, high quality texture packs.

Also, AMD cards run hot because AMD's stock voltages are higher than they need to be, so you can undervolt the card to lower temperatures while maintaining performance.
 

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It can help out with games that like to use large, high quality texture packs.

Also, AMD cards run hot because AMD's stock voltages are higher than they need to be, so you can undervolt the card to lower temperatures while maintaining performance.
Undervolting huh. I had to deal with "underclocking" with my last card due to some memory issues so I think I'll be skipping team red this time around.

What's the word on buying used GPUs? Too risky?
 
I need some feedback on my choices, I have trusty but old pc.
CPU: i5 4690
GPU: gtx 970
RAM: 16 ddr3

I'm planing on upgrading my 970 to the 1070 or 1070ti, i'm happy playing at 1080/60, so I think a 1080 would be overkill for my actual setup, and I prefer upgrading my gpu first and maybe next year the rest of the PC.

Am I right?
 
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I need some feedback on my choices, I have trusty but old pc.
CPU: i5 4960
GPU: gtx 970
RAM: 16 ddr3

I'm planing on upgrading my 970 to the 1070 or 1070ti, i'm happy playing at 1080/60, so I think a 1080 would be overkill for my actual setup, and I prefer upgrading my gpu first and maybe next year the rest of the PC.

Am I right?
Sounds good to me.
 
Okay so here's my specs on my pc
Motherboard: G1 Sniper z97
Graphics card: GTX 780
CPU: i7 4770k
Ram: 16 gb

I built it back in 2014 and just want to know what do I need to upgrade and what will still last me. I know for sure I need to upgrade my Graphics card at least.
 
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