WritersEra |OT| Publish before you die

Good luck to you guys trying out for Nano. I am, once again, going to be sitting it out. I can't keep up what work pace, and I have other things I need to baby sit, like doing changes on a novel as per agents suggestions by the end of October, so it can go out on submission, and still working on the current book.
 
I'll be sitting it out too - I already have two unfinished books to wrap up before I go starting another one, and I've got contract deadlines on my freelance work.
 
Short work submitted. Check sent folder to make sure it sent properly. Go back to inbox. Stare. Refresh. Stare. Refresh. Stare.

I'll be going all in - I already have two unfinished books to wrap up before I go starting another one, and I've got contract deadlines on my freelance work, so what the hell. Whyyyyyyy not.
Fixed it for you.
 
for my main project it's not much different. I plan things out randomly, and in general have a broad outline of the next 50-100k words and a more detailed outline in my head of the next 5k or so.

the secondary project I did last year I did a quick overall outline, and I should try to do that again. I remember where I left off but I don't remember what the plan was for the rest of the first season of that project.

first season - investigating the mysteries of the town
season 2 - main characters getting stronger and starting missions to the north where the monsters are.
season 3 - learn the secrets of the monsters and various other things eventually leading to a peaceful compromise.
i want to try to do a 100k-250K story, but I guess for those I really need to do some planning instead of winging it. I'll have to think of this.
 
i want to try to do a 100k-250K story, but I guess for those I really need to do some planning instead of winging it. I'll have to think of this.
you should at least have a broad idea of what you want to do, and work towards making sure you know your character's motivations.

Also accept that your idea might not take as long you think, or might take longer.
I've had plenty of ideas that I thought would take 10k words end up taking 50k and plenty that I thought would take 50k that were done in 20k lol.
 
I mean you're probably right, but I'm pretending to be sensible.

Good luck on the submission!
I'm just teasing. I always say I'm going to be sensible too and then am gripped by insanity the day before NaNo, thinking that I'll be able to bang out another novel somehow 'because NaNo'. I managed half a page last time. I love cheering people on for insane things, though, so go for it! Maybe I'll do author portraits for those who clear it (if that interests anyone)? Then I can still live vicariously through you crazy diamonds. :D

And cheers. I don't even expect to hear back from them, really, but it's fun just casting my line out into the water again after so long. On the plus side, for my birthday my husband is apparently packing me off to a spa hotel for a whole day and night for a 'writing/relax' session. I'm going to finish the latest chapter of Dead Leads if it kills me. After the massage, though.


That's me daily with Submittable. Though post-Labour Day has not been kind, rejections coming in bunches. Need to fill up the queue again!
Awww. It's still kind of thrilling seeing anything come in, though, right? I submitted something way back in May for a contest that was supposedly slated to end after July. Heard nothing and August rolled by, so I checked back on the site to see if they'd selected anyone yet or were still reviewing, and it was just the same as it had been months before: dead. Oh well. I might drop the short story I just did in a few other places and see if something comes of it elsewhere if I don't hear anything after a few weeks. My fingers are crossed that you'll catch a big fish in the next lot. (<-- How many do you submit, btw?) I love hearing about the victories here. Fighto~
 
I was strongly considering Nano but unfortunately I’ll be in Basic Training during that time so it’s gonna be a nogo. There’s always next yesr though, and by then my living situation should be sorted out so I’ll be in a much better place to do it. Good luck to all the participants.

Slowly crawling back from Writer’s Block here. If I just do it it eventually goes away.
 
Awww. It's still kind of thrilling seeing anything come in, though, right? I submitted something way back in May for a contest that was supposedly slated to end after July. Heard nothing and August rolled by, so I checked back on the site to see if they'd selected anyone yet or were still reviewing, and it was just the same as it had been months before: dead. Oh well. I might drop the short story I just did in a few other places and see if something comes of it elsewhere if I don't hear anything after a few weeks. My fingers are crossed that you'll catch a big fish in the next lot. (<-- How many do you submit, btw?) I love hearing about the victories here. Fighto~
I like seeing the button go from "received" to "in-progress". More "in-progress" to "accepted" changes would be better though haha.

I have 7 active submissions in the queue right now, but most of them are for contests, so they're longshots to begin with. Usually I try to aim for double digits in submissions, but I got five no's in the last 2 weeks and feel a little weary about just sending things back out. I do have hopes for a few submissions - they are hanging around longer than usual, so hopefully that's because the editors are hashing it out :) We shall see!
 
And cheers. I don't even expect to hear back from them, really, but it's fun just casting my line out into the water again after so long. On the plus side, for my birthday my husband is apparently packing me off to a spa hotel for a whole day and night for a 'writing/relax' session. I'm going to finish the latest chapter of Dead Leads if it kills me. After the massage, though.
I know the feeling - I've just started sending out one of my manuscripts to a couple of places again, as much as for the feeling of having something out there as for any hopes of them actually taking it.
And that's a really supportive present! I might take notes for my wife's benefit next year if she complains about being at a loose end.

(And many happy returns in advance for whenever it is!)
 
Little update on my novel...

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Creek-Dan-Kemp-ebook/dp/B07D5KZ8ZQ/

A few months after release, everything has slowed to a crawl, no surprise. Sales and Kindle Unlimited borrows come sporadically, but reviews are impossible to come by. This really sucks, seeing as how much Amazon's algorithm seems to rely on review counts.

I decide the best thing to do would be to try to get the book to as many people as possible in an attempt to get some more reviews. So a few days ago I set up a two day free promotion for the Kindle version, and then booked a featured deal with Freebooksy. This cost $100.

Today was the day, and I was blown away by the results so far. Over the course of the day I had 2,116 downloads. My book soared up the Free charts, now sitting at #74 overall, #7 in Fantasy, and #1 in 2/3 subcategories I'm listed in. It's a bit painful to see that many downloads for free, but of course the hope is that in the long run this leads to more sustained sales.
 
Congratulations at the uptake! I hope it translates into sales later on, but at the very least it must be nice to know that you're getting the work into people's hands.
 
Today was the day, and I was blown away by the results so far. Over the course of the day I had 2,116 downloads. My book soared up the Free charts, now sitting at #74 overall, #7 in Fantasy, and #1 in 2/3 subcategories I'm listed in. It's a bit painful to see that many downloads for free, but of course the hope is that in the long run this leads to more sustained sales.
I mean, even if it doesn't lead to more sales (hopefully it does) you can still at least take a screen shot knowing that you got something you created into the top 100 on amazon, top 10 in fantasy, and number one in some places.

that's not nothing.
 
I mean, even if it doesn't lead to more sales (hopefully it does) you can still at least take a screen shot knowing that you got something you created into the top 100 on amazon, top 10 in fantasy, and number one in some places.

that's not nothing.
Oh no doubt. I'm definitely pretty excited just to have seen it climb that high. I'd love to get more sales in the future, and even moreso I'd love to have more reviews on it, but at the end of the day I'm not really doing this for money and I'm just happy to get it out there to as many people as possible.
 
Oh no doubt. I'm definitely pretty excited just to have seen it climb that high. I'd love to get more sales in the future, and even moreso I'd love to have more reviews on it, but at the end of the day I'm not really doing this for money and I'm just happy to get it out there to as many people as possible.
Hopefully this does translate into more reviews for you. Both Amazons and Goodreads reviews would definitely be a boost for you.
 
Little update on my novel...

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Creek-Dan-Kemp-ebook/dp/B07D5KZ8ZQ/

A few months after release, everything has slowed to a crawl, no surprise. Sales and Kindle Unlimited borrows come sporadically, but reviews are impossible to come by. This really sucks, seeing as how much Amazon's algorithm seems to rely on review counts.

I decide the best thing to do would be to try to get the book to as many people as possible in an attempt to get some more reviews. So a few days ago I set up a two day free promotion for the Kindle version, and then booked a featured deal with Freebooksy. This cost $100.

Today was the day, and I was blown away by the results so far. Over the course of the day I had 2,116 downloads. My book soared up the Free charts, now sitting at #74 overall, #7 in Fantasy, and #1 in 2/3 subcategories I'm listed in. It's a bit painful to see that many downloads for free, but of course the hope is that in the long run this leads to more sustained sales.
Don't mind me. Just taking notes >_>
 
What does it mean when a writer "cant find a voice" and how does one "find the voice"? If that makes sense?
It's like weemadarthur said, though usually when talking about "voice" it generally means the second; the overall feel, tone and style of the writer's writing. No one is going to mistake Stephen King's writing for Frank Herbert's, and that's because of the distinctive voices they have. In fact, some writers are so distinctive that people can either immediately or subconsciously pick up on their voice. One famous example of this is when Stephen King--because he was writing too damn many books--started putting out books under the pseudonym "Richard Bachman," and put out books like The Body/Stand By Me, and one reviewer hilariously, ignorantly, and now famously wrote, "This is how Stephen King would write if he actually could write."

Usually you develop a writer's voice organically, through years of just doing it. It's pretty much like music or art in that regard. When you first start out, you imitate. You look at styles you like, structures you like, and you try your hand at doing them. Eventually, through months and years of practice in that way, you start to develop your own preferences. Maybe William Gibson isn't as funny as you'd like to be, or maybe Isaac Asimov's language choices are a little too simplistic for you. So you start adding your own personal preferences/flourishes to the writers you're imitating, and eventually your own "voice" emerges. But it takes time. It's very hard to artificially accelerate this process, and even once you've got a voice you like the natural passage of time and influences you should be continuing to expose yourself to will continue to tweak your voice through the years. So even once you've found your voice, don't be too surprised if something you wrote 10 years ago feels different from what you're writing now.
 
Little update on my novel...

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Creek-Dan-Kemp-ebook/dp/B07D5KZ8ZQ/

A few months after release, everything has slowed to a crawl, no surprise. Sales and Kindle Unlimited borrows come sporadically, but reviews are impossible to come by. This really sucks, seeing as how much Amazon's algorithm seems to rely on review counts.

I decide the best thing to do would be to try to get the book to as many people as possible in an attempt to get some more reviews. So a few days ago I set up a two day free promotion for the Kindle version, and then booked a featured deal with Freebooksy. This cost $100.

Today was the day, and I was blown away by the results so far. Over the course of the day I had 2,116 downloads. My book soared up the Free charts, now sitting at #74 overall, #7 in Fantasy, and #1 in 2/3 subcategories I'm listed in. It's a bit painful to see that many downloads for free, but of course the hope is that in the long run this leads to more sustained sales.
Bought (at $2.99).

I feel your pain. My King Arthur Origins series continues to get sporadic sales and random KU readings. What's great is that I can see when someone is reading via KU and to see them move on to book 2 and then 3 and then 4 fills me with happiness. It's a bummer that it doesn't translate to reviews, but it's really heartening to see people who clearly could stop at any point and move onto something else make the decision to read through the full series.

Good luck to you! A word of advice: jump into Goodreads and try to sync up with some co-author reading groups. You can usually sign up with a group where you agree to read and review 2 others while 2 other readers read and provide a review of yours.

Once I dig into your book I'll add a review to Amazon & GR for you.
 
Bought (at $2.99).

I feel your pain. My King Arthur Origins series continues to get sporadic sales and random KU readings. What's great is that I can see when someone is reading via KU and to see them move on to book 2 and then 3 and then 4 fills me with happiness. It's a bummer that it doesn't translate to reviews, but it's really heartening to see people who clearly could stop at any point and move onto something else make the decision to read through the full series.

Good luck to you! A word of advice: jump into Goodreads and try to sync up with some co-author reading groups. You can usually sign up with a group where you agree to read and review 2 others while 2 other readers read and provide a review of yours.

Once I dig into your book I'll add a review to Amazon & GR for you.
Much appreciated!

Oddly enough I sold 33 books today, first day back on sale after the free promo. Easily the most I've ever sold in one day.
 
Oddly enough I sold 33 books today, first day back on sale after the free promo. Easily the most I've ever sold in one day.
33 in a day's really pretty good (and easily more than I've managed). Glad to hear it worked for you!

(I'm more limited in my promos due to working with a small press, but also taking notes here)
 
So I was randomly got sent this email this morning...

Hello!

I'd like to invite you to apply to my job. Please review the job post and apply if you're available.

Ivy M

M/M Gay Shifter Romance Writers Needed
Fixed Price Project - Est. Budget $5,000.00
Only freelancers located in the United States may apply

Would you like the opportunity to write for a best-selling publishing house specializing in M/M shifter romance novels with readers and fans worldwide?

We produce gay romance novels based in contemporary settings and in supernatural/paranormal worlds. Our primary focus on shifters are stories that feature:
* Wolves
* Bears
* Dragons

Our characters fight through relationship woes and celebrate swells of passion in situations ranging from love triangles to forbidden desire, tribal rivalries, mpreg, and ancient or secret worlds clashing with the new. Adventure, mystery, crime, comedy, and drama are no strangers to our romance stories.

We’re looking for a talented M/M (gay) shifter romance writer, that from the first sentence to the last, can keep readers engaged and craving more!


MUST:

☻ Be a native English-speaking writer with excellent comprehension and execution of English grammar.

☻ Be dedicated to writing character-driven books focusing on the development of romantic attraction between the main characters. You have the creative freedom to flesh out the details within our guidelines.

☻ Be an enthusiastic and thorough researcher.

☻ Lastly, be original. We run books through PlagScan and Copyscape. We have zero tolerance for plagiarism, which we will report to Upwork and rights holders.

We will pay a maximum of $10 per 1000 words, with opportunities for advancement. This job will be recurring if your writing is solid and we have fun working together.

Word count ranges can vary from 20k-100k words, but around the 50k range usually tends to be the most frequent at this time. Turnaround times can vary as we would want to work with you to get a rhythm down, and all writers work at varying paces, but we would ideally like a minimum of 40k words a month.

By taking on this job, you understand and agree that this is a WORK FOR HIRE, ghostwriting position. This means that you will not retain any right to the finished books & will not be credited as the author. We reserve the right to use the material in any form.

If you are interested in this opportunity, please submit one or a couple of samples that showcase your best work in the romance genre.

Thank you!
 
Man, I always have this thread subscribed to, but practically never post...

I've been plugging away on my book for about 8 weeks, somewhere between half and 2/3rds fine with it. Been doing about five chapters a week really consistently, which I'm pleasantly surprised by, as I totally expected to get fatigued by it.
 
What does it mean when a writer "cant find a voice" and how does one "find the voice"? If that makes sense?
Voice is a weird thing that kind of doesn't exist that basically means what makes your story/style stand out from the rest. A lot of things can contribute to "voice" such as narration tricks, recurring themes, or stylistic choices. Like most writing things, "voice" is something that really just comes with experience as you get a better handle on what you like to write about and how you like to present it. Other things to keep in mind, "voice" often (and should) change over time and also no one really knows what they mean when they talk about it. We're all just grasping at straws in the dark.

Is the Nano thread going to be up next month? Just to prepare for it, that's all.
Ask FlowersisBritish
As he volunteered to run it this year.
Yes! Nano thread'll be up sometime next month. Probably like sometime early mid-October.

the same FlowersisBritish that volunteered to make a poetry thread like 9 months ago :P?
Listen I've just been...... busy...........
And severely depressed but that's honestly par for the course with me. Still planning on doing the Poetry OT so expect that soon.

Man, I always have this thread subscribed to, but practically never post...

I've been plugging away on my book for about 8 weeks, somewhere between half and 2/3rds fine with it. Been doing about five chapters a week really consistently, which I'm pleasantly surprised by, as I totally expected to get fatigued by it.
Really glad to hear your novel is just flying by even though it means we won't see you at Nano. Wish I could have that same kind of work output but alas.
 
Voice is a weird thing that kind of doesn't exist that basically means what makes your story/style stand out from the rest. A lot of things can contribute to "voice" such as narration tricks, recurring themes, or stylistic choices. Like most writing things, "voice" is something that really just comes with experience as you get a better handle on what you like to write about and how you like to present it. Other things to keep in mind, "voice" often (and should) change over time and also no one really knows what they mean when they talk about it. We're all just grasping at straws in the dark.





Yes! Nano thread'll be up sometime next month. Probably like sometime early mid-October.



Listen I've just been...... busy...........
And severely depressed but that's honestly par for the course with me. Still planning on doing the Poetry OT so expect that soon.



Really glad to hear your novel is just flying by even though it means we won't see you at Nano. Wish I could have that same kind of work output but alas.
mid october would be the 11-20th or so
early would imply the first 25% of that range so the 11-13th or so
So I am expecting a thread on friday the 12th :3

also, take your time with the poetry thread. We have obviously repurposed the writing challenge threads for that :P
 
Really glad to hear your novel is just flying by even though it means we won't see you at Nano. Wish I could have that same kind of work output but alas.
Well, I have a baby due around mid-October, so NaNo wasn't happening for me regards, so I decided I was doing this instead.

Now the question is can I finish it before the baby gets here...
 
In this first hour of september 16th 2018, I have surpassed 300k words for the year (300446 to be exact :P)
my total from last year 216087, but my words from sept 16th to the end of the year was 172523 so while I have easily beat my last year at this point I still have quite a bit work if I want to beat that (not sure how motivated I am to do that as a good chunk of that was a stupid nov where I wrote over 100k words between 2 nano projects and that was draining lol)


either way just 65k more words to go for my year goal, so that's something. and at least no matter what else happens this year I know I have beat last year and taken steps to getting my story finished (I finished act one of my overall story and am now starting act 2 for a bit before I go back and work on some of the earlier books) though the plan is 4 total acts so I'm only 25% done or so, and my stories are getting more involved and longer so the next 25% might even be longer but eh... whatever. I'm actually starting to enjoy writing a little even if it's constantly giving me heart burn and eating up all my free time. As I continue to improve my ability to weave a story of many parts, it's getting a little more exciting seeing how things turn out, and realizing how complex and interesting a tale I am starting to be able to make.

the down side being I actively know books 1-3 need to be made more interesting now since books 4-6 are so much better put together and 7 is starting out strong.

I legitimately think that books 4-6 could be read (if you had context of books 1-3) and there would be people who felt it wasn't the worst thing ever. Which is a set up.

still have to work on descriptions alot, which is one of the main reasons I want to go back and edit book 1 right now. I think that is something that will be easier to work on while editing. plus I need to make a bible of some information that I need for book 7.

anyways I hope other people are doing well in their writing quest.

Note: if you are thinking about writing a really long series just don't. It's really draining and no part of me can say this is remotely a good idea @[email protected]
 
I like seeing the button go from "received" to "in-progress". More "in-progress" to "accepted" changes would be better though haha.

I have 7 active submissions in the queue right now, but most of them are for contests, so they're longshots to begin with. Usually I try to aim for double digits in submissions, but I got five no's in the last 2 weeks and feel a little weary about just sending things back out. I do have hopes for a few submissions - they are hanging around longer than usual, so hopefully that's because the editors are hashing it out :) We shall see!
That's really cool, though. It's an impressive amount of output to begin with, and having so many 'in play' must be very exciting, rejections or no. How on earth do you generate so much creative energy? Speaking of submissions, I had been thinking it might be a nice easy WritingOT challenge to have everyone do a short/flash fiction horror story and submit them to various podcasts for Halloween, but after my last few epic fails 'hosting' challenges, I'm not sure I should. :D I'm full of ideas and enthusiasm but no energy. Would be fun, though.

I know the feeling - I've just started sending out one of my manuscripts to a couple of places again, as much as for the feeling of having something out there as for any hopes of them actually taking it.
And that's a really supportive present! I might take notes for my wife's benefit next year if she complains about being at a loose end.

(And many happy returns in advance for whenever it is!)
My fingers are crossed for you! And thanks~ It was a pretty spot on present (do recommend it for the wife), but I spent most of it zoning out in a steam room. The only writing I managed was at the very end, frantically trying to put at least a paragraph to paper while waiting for my husband to pick me up so that I could tell him that I did some writing...

Little update on my novel...

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Creek-Dan-Kemp-ebook/dp/B07D5KZ8ZQ/

A few months after release, everything has slowed to a crawl, no surprise. Sales and Kindle Unlimited borrows come sporadically, but reviews are impossible to come by. This really sucks, seeing as how much Amazon's algorithm seems to rely on review counts.

I decide the best thing to do would be to try to get the book to as many people as possible in an attempt to get some more reviews. So a few days ago I set up a two day free promotion for the Kindle version, and then booked a featured deal with Freebooksy. This cost $100.

Today was the day, and I was blown away by the results so far. Over the course of the day I had 2,116 downloads. My book soared up the Free charts, now sitting at #74 overall, #7 in Fantasy, and #1 in 2/3 subcategories I'm listed in. It's a bit painful to see that many downloads for free, but of course the hope is that in the long run this leads to more sustained sales.
I love reading all these details and breakdowns, Emerson. Thanks for keeping us updated. And whatever longer term results come of it, like zulu said, how cool that you cracked those ranks! Any further future plans to promote it?
 
That's really cool, though. It's an impressive amount of output to begin with, and having so many 'in play' must be very exciting, rejections or no. How on earth do you generate so much creative energy? Speaking of submissions, I had been thinking it might be a nice easy WritingOT challenge to have everyone do a short/flash fiction horror story and submit them to various podcasts for Halloween, but after my last few epic fails 'hosting' challenges, I'm not sure I should. :D I'm full of ideas and enthusiasm but no energy. Would be fun, though.
A lot are just simultaneous submissions. I'm actually feeling pretty burnt out in terms of generating new material right now, but editing and tweaking existing work for submission is something I can still do and enjoy. I think I'm in the same headspace as you - lots of ideas but no will to execute. I think I'll just let it build up until I need to get it down.
 
My fingers are crossed for you! And thanks~ It was a pretty spot on present (do recommend it for the wife), but I spent most of it zoning out in a steam room. The only writing I managed was at the very end, frantically trying to put at least a paragraph to paper while waiting for my husband to pick me up so that I could tell him that I did some writing...
Thank you!
And that sounds familiar - I've just got back from a holiday in Dublin, where I packed notebooks and pens all ready to be inspired by Ireland and only managed a single line of poetry.
 
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I love reading all these details and breakdowns, Emerson. Thanks for keeping us updated. And whatever longer term results come of it, like zulu said, how cool that you cracked those ranks! Any further future plans to promote it?
No doubt I will promote it further but I don't have any specific plans at the moment. If my aim for more reviews pays off then maybe running more AMS ads will be beneficial. And there's always plenty of 0.99 discount book promo sites and lists I could try down the road.

I suspect at this point though it'll be quickly diminishing returns as far as any major promotional efforts other than writing another book.
 
Assistance warranted, bad sentence structure of good as is|

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Not even a second passed after he landed his feet on the floor did his door swing open and the most loudest boisterous voice he’d ever imagined fill the quaint space of his bedroom.
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Assistance warranted, bad sentence structure of good as is|

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Not even a second passed after he landed his feet on the floor did his door swing open and the most loudest boisterous voice he’d ever imagined fill the quaint space of his bedroom.
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Sorry about coming to this late. I got distracted by Hollow Knight. Anyways I think the biggest problem is that there seems to be like three different subjects in the sentence (The feet landing on the floor, the door opening, the voice filling the room) and a sentence is supposed to only have one. Whenever you have a messy sentence you should try and think about what's the most important information you want to convey in as little words as you can and build up from there. For this, i'm gonna say the voice is the most important.

Not even a second passed after he landed his feet on the floor did his door swing open and the most loudest boisterous voice he’d ever imagined fill the quaint space of his bedroom.

"The voice filled his bedroom."

That's the most important thing. Someone comes in and their voice fills the quiet room. Everything else is just set dressing to add a bit of context, descriptions, and to flare up the sentence and it's those parts that make this confusing to read. Now again, when cleanign up a muddled sentence: it's good to think about what the base sentence is about, and the same thought should be applied to the sentence additions:

1)"Not even a second passed after" implies a quick series of events
2)"He landed on his feet on the floor" This is the part throwing people off. When you read this, it comes off as the base sentence, the subject of it, the information you're trying to get across, but it's not. But since it's the first complete sentence the reader can recognize, it's what stays in their mind. And since they think this is a sentence about someone landing on their feet, when the next bit of information isn't about/complimentary to that, they get confused. Anyways, what's important here is the action.
3)"Did his door swing open" self explanatory but the 'did' is a bit of an awkward begining to phrase it.
4)"Most loudest boisterous" So 'most' implies the top of its field, and so 'most boisterous' is an okay thing to say but 'most loudest' is awkward in large part because it's redundant. We already know they're the 'most loudest' because that's what 'loudest' by itself means.
5)"He'd ever imagined"self-explanatory, but really when you get down to it, this is just to more emphasis on how loud the voice is.
6)"the quaint space of" it's a quick description of the room, even if it's just the feeling of the room.

Kay so as you can see, for this sentence, there is a lot of extra details and most of them don't need to be there. We cut half of them and it cleans up the sentence, quite a bit. But we can't do that in one sentence because that sentence will be too cluttered so we'll do a compound sentence (two sentences joined by 'and').

"His feet landed on the floor, and a boisterous voice filled his quaint bedroom"

So a good way to very up every sentence beginning with "he" is to have an object be the subject of the sentence. In this case, I chose the feet. I also changed 'the' to 'a' cause it makes the voice less specific, more of a surprise and impersonal. 'the' implies we should already know who the voice belongs to, but they just walked into the scene. I also got rid of 1) for kind of an artsy reason. by having 'His feet landed on the floor and....' it's kinda implying a rapid series of events by itself. Now the trick with that is to convey a sense of speed, you've gotta keep your sentences short. The more you add on the more you're going to lose that sense of speed. I got rid of the door because I thought it muddled up the sentence a bit too much. You could start the next sentence with "The door swung open and [BLANK] walked in." You don't have to try and jam everything you want into one sentence. Actually, that's a good way to make a mess of a sentence.

Anyways I'd recommend reading up on sentence structure. The way you know if what you're reading is legit is if they use the term "independent clauses." That's where I learned a lot of this stuff even if I can never get the terms straight enough in my head to use them in a post.
 
Ok, it looks like I'm doing a massive drastic change for my novel for Nano, and this is the 1st time it has ever happened for me close to when Nano was coming. The title has changed, the concept has changed, and while it'll keep the characters it'll add mostly new ones.
 
I'm a little curious about people's process.

like mine is to flesh out characters quite a bit, and try to have their motivations and personalities well defined and then come up with the situation they are in and ultimately have them resolve it with only a little thinking about how things will go as often they don't agree with what I want to do.
this results in me creating some background information in them that doesn't always make it into the story, and sometimes even sitting down and writting scenes with certain characters interacting with each other to get a better feel for them that I just shove on a hard drive somewhere and don't use for the story either.

I'm wondering how often other people write stuff for a story such as those things and not include them in the story in great detail.

like i have a character that i have a detailed backstory for that I don't plan on ever touching upon aside from subtle hints because i don't think i could do it justice, and the main point of that backstory is there isn't a single moment that lead him to do the things he did, but a collection of small moments.

don't get me wrong I do outline some stuff, and do have plans for some things... but for example the next chapter of my story my notes are literally "Party runs into Old man character who tries to talk them out of what they are doing" I mean I know more details about things than that, especially the old man's motivations and the truth about him, but that is all I currently have planned in my outline because once I get into the scene i know the characters will naturally respond to him and ask questions that drive the scene and I can clean it up in editing.

so just curious what others do.
 
I am a horrible, horrible example of this, and I strongly recommend that people do not do it the way I do.

I have an idea for a general plot, or maybe just a character and a particular situation. Then I sit down, start one page one, and keep writing until I get to the end. Over the course of that time, the characters do whatever it is they're going to do, and I just write it down, because I want to see how it all ends. Then I hand off that first draft to a few readers and/or my agent, get the feedback, and work on a second or second and a half draft and then it's done.

So yeah, no outlining, no jumping from one scene to the next, no place holders, I just write it, in sequential order, then finish it, then edit it. And that's probably the LEAST efficient way to do it, so I don't advise others to think this is the right or good way to do it.
 
I am a horrible, horrible example of this, and I strongly recommend that people do not do it the way I do.

I have an idea for a general plot, or maybe just a character and a particular situation. Then I sit down, start one page one, and keep writing until I get to the end. Over the course of that time, the characters do whatever it is they're going to do, and I just write it down, because I want to see how it all ends. Then I hand off that first draft to a few readers and/or my agent, get the feedback, and work on a second or second and a half draft and then it's done.

So yeah, no outlining, no jumping from one scene to the next, no place holders, I just write it, in sequential order, then finish it, then edit it. And that's probably the LEAST efficient way to do it, so I don't advise others to think this is the right or good way to do it.
I do this as well, but I honestly wouldn't do it any other way and think it's a pretty boss way to write a novel.
 
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